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	<title>Comments on: Tell Them It&#8217;s Linux!!</title>
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		<title>By: A Linux User</title>
		<link>http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/03/tell-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1358</link>
		<dc:creator>A Linux User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yonah: Key in this video, is when the picture is opened at 00:36. Do you see that? How the image is garbled? That’s classic Linux sloppiness. Every single zealot I’ve pointed that out to has scoffed at it or ignored it or claimed they “couldn’t see it”.

&quot;classic Linux sloppiness&quot;?!?  SERIOUSLY?  You actually BELIEVE that?

Yeah, that glitch couldn&#039;t have anything at all to do with the &quot;classic hardware manufacturer sloppiness&quot; that many 3D graphic card manufacturers are guilty of with their half-arsed attempts at Linux support (KDE 4 uses OpenGL 3D quite heavily to accomplish the fancy effects you see in that video), or couldn&#039;t possibly be related in the slightest to the fact that KDE 4 is still pretty new and many things in it are still not yet complete.  Nah, it MUST be &quot;classic Linux sloppiness&quot;...  

Funny that I literally NEVER see that particular glitch EVER in KDE 3.5.10, yet I see it fairly often in KDE 4.  I have seen that exact same glitch in several picture viewers in the KDE 4 environment and never ONCE seen it in the image viewers I use in KDE 3.5, so I&#039;d be pretty willing to bet that it&#039;s related somewhat directly to the almost total re-write of KDE that the 4.x series is, and that that nit-picky little glitch will likely disappear at some point in the future one way or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yonah: Key in this video, is when the picture is opened at 00:36. Do you see that? How the image is garbled? That’s classic Linux sloppiness. Every single zealot I’ve pointed that out to has scoffed at it or ignored it or claimed they “couldn’t see it”.</p>
<p>&#8220;classic Linux sloppiness&#8221;?!?  SERIOUSLY?  You actually BELIEVE that?</p>
<p>Yeah, that glitch couldn&#8217;t have anything at all to do with the &#8220;classic hardware manufacturer sloppiness&#8221; that many 3D graphic card manufacturers are guilty of with their half-arsed attempts at Linux support (KDE 4 uses OpenGL 3D quite heavily to accomplish the fancy effects you see in that video), or couldn&#8217;t possibly be related in the slightest to the fact that KDE 4 is still pretty new and many things in it are still not yet complete.  Nah, it MUST be &#8220;classic Linux sloppiness&#8221;&#8230;  </p>
<p>Funny that I literally NEVER see that particular glitch EVER in KDE 3.5.10, yet I see it fairly often in KDE 4.  I have seen that exact same glitch in several picture viewers in the KDE 4 environment and never ONCE seen it in the image viewers I use in KDE 3.5, so I&#8217;d be pretty willing to bet that it&#8217;s related somewhat directly to the almost total re-write of KDE that the 4.x series is, and that that nit-picky little glitch will likely disappear at some point in the future one way or another.</p>
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		<title>By: Yonah</title>
		<link>http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/03/tell-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1237</link>
		<dc:creator>Yonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Key in this video, is when the picture is opened at 00:36.  Do you see that?  How the image is garbled?  That&#039;s classic Linux sloppiness.  Every single zealot I&#039;ve pointed that out to has scoffed at it or ignored it or claimed they &quot;couldn&#039;t see it&quot;.

Also, don&#039;t forget that videos like this are primarily made to entertain, not educate or inform.  It&#039;s not news worthy.  They are heavily edited to present the side they wish to show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Key in this video, is when the picture is opened at 00:36.  Do you see that?  How the image is garbled?  That&#8217;s classic Linux sloppiness.  Every single zealot I&#8217;ve pointed that out to has scoffed at it or ignored it or claimed they &#8220;couldn&#8217;t see it&#8221;.</p>
<p>Also, don&#8217;t forget that videos like this are primarily made to entertain, not educate or inform.  It&#8217;s not news worthy.  They are heavily edited to present the side they wish to show.</p>
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		<title>By: fab</title>
		<link>http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/03/tell-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1188</link>
		<dc:creator>fab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, I was trying to do that so many times. I mean I tried so many times to tell them about alternatives. People don&#039;t either care about linux, don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about and... think windows is cool as they can run itunes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I was trying to do that so many times. I mean I tried so many times to tell them about alternatives. People don&#8217;t either care about linux, don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about and&#8230; think windows is cool as they can run itunes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/03/tell-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1175</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fab - Interesting thought, I guess I just don&#039;t want people to have to get cut first to learn. I think in reality the chances are they&#039;ll just take whatever Windows 7 throws at them and put up with it, unless someone tells them there&#039;s an easier and cheaper way (sigh)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fab &#8211; Interesting thought, I guess I just don&#8217;t want people to have to get cut first to learn. I think in reality the chances are they&#8217;ll just take whatever Windows 7 throws at them and put up with it, unless someone tells them there&#8217;s an easier and cheaper way (sigh)</p>
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		<title>By: fab</title>
		<link>http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/03/tell-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1174</link>
		<dc:creator>fab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my first thought was like yours Dan, but then i thought it&#039;s actually better they haven&#039;t told them. and you know why? because once they get Windows 7 and figure out it&#039;s not possible to do all those things, they will get mad and switch to GNU/Linux. some people just have to cut themselves before they understand what&#039;s sharp..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my first thought was like yours Dan, but then i thought it&#8217;s actually better they haven&#8217;t told them. and you know why? because once they get Windows 7 and figure out it&#8217;s not possible to do all those things, they will get mad and switch to GNU/Linux. some people just have to cut themselves before they understand what&#8217;s sharp..</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/03/tell-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1172</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrew - Yes perhaps I should, only problem being I don&#039;t really use KDE personally. I&#039;ll have to get a testing machine or a spare machine and demo it to people. I often show people Compiz and other cool stuff on my laptop when I&#039;m out and about. People see me doing something on the train or wherever and ask what I&#039;m using. Then of course, I pounce muwahahaha :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrew &#8211; Yes perhaps I should, only problem being I don&#8217;t really use KDE personally. I&#8217;ll have to get a testing machine or a spare machine and demo it to people. I often show people Compiz and other cool stuff on my laptop when I&#8217;m out and about. People see me doing something on the train or wherever and ask what I&#8217;m using. Then of course, I pounce muwahahaha <img src='http://danlynch.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/03/tell-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1171</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you should create your own video showing off KDE4 to the crowds of Merseyside, while pretending it is the newest version of Windows. 

And then also include the reaction of people once you tell them it is KDE4 running on a Linux distro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you should create your own video showing off KDE4 to the crowds of Merseyside, while pretending it is the newest version of Windows. </p>
<p>And then also include the reaction of people once you tell them it is KDE4 running on a Linux distro.</p>
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		<title>By: shamil</title>
		<link>http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/03/tell-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1169</link>
		<dc:creator>shamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah the video was a little bit funny, but they sure were being butt holes to those poor clickity click users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah the video was a little bit funny, but they sure were being butt holes to those poor clickity click users.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/03/tell-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1166</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow &quot;Vista Linux&quot; haven&#039;t heard that one before, the answer would be &quot;yes you can upgrade here&#039;s a CD&quot; I hope :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8220;Vista Linux&#8221; haven&#8217;t heard that one before, the answer would be &#8220;yes you can upgrade here&#8217;s a CD&#8221; I hope <img src='http://danlynch.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/03/tell-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1165</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair point I don&#039;t dispute that KDE 4 is a cross platform development but that wasn&#039;t running on Windows or Mac OS. It&#039;s possible it was running on Solaris, BSD or something else but I doubt it. I agree that they shouldn&#039;t say &quot;KDE 4 is Linux&quot; because it&#039;s not, I didn&#039;t mean to imply that but I do think telling people it&#039;s Windows 7 doesn&#039;t help, that was not KDE 4 running on Windows. Tell them it&#039;s Free Software at least, that&#039;s all I&#039;m saying. Thanks for the comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair point I don&#8217;t dispute that KDE 4 is a cross platform development but that wasn&#8217;t running on Windows or Mac OS. It&#8217;s possible it was running on Solaris, BSD or something else but I doubt it. I agree that they shouldn&#8217;t say &#8220;KDE 4 is Linux&#8221; because it&#8217;s not, I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that but I do think telling people it&#8217;s Windows 7 doesn&#8217;t help, that was not KDE 4 running on Windows. Tell them it&#8217;s Free Software at least, that&#8217;s all I&#8217;m saying. Thanks for the comment</p>
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