Comments on: Libre.fm – Building An Open Last.fm http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/04/librefm/ There's No Place Like /Home Sat, 12 May 2012 20:16:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: CrybKeeper http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/04/librefm/comment-page-1/#comment-5060 CrybKeeper Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:36:21 +0000 http://danlynch.org/blog/?p=663#comment-5060 I could go on forever, this is true. I would love to see Libre.fm become a break out web offering, but even now, plans are in the works to make micro-payments a major part of internet offerings on medial content. Sure, music artists can offer their content for free and that is really cool, but it stands to reason, they are eventually going to need to support their offerings, financially and as an avid supporter of the independent musician, I find it very important to show some financial support to those artists. Lastfm makes that easy for us, as the subscriptions help pay the artists their royalties and we are currently pushing CBSi(parent corp.), to raise the royalty percentage and lower the cost of the music artists 'Lastfm Powerplay' campaigns. As a music publicist, I have contacts in very high places and although, I cannot say too much in public, I can tell you this much; Lastfm is suffering and profits are not what was hoped for. There is a good chance, Lastfm will raise their sub prices, sell out, or just go bust. Libre.fm will be running into these same issues, if they start offering protected content. However, if they do not offer that, I can see them getting bigger and better, just like Jamendo, which is also struggling to stay afloat, by the way. I could go on forever, this is true. I would love to see Libre.fm become a break out web offering, but even now, plans are in the works to make micro-payments a major part of internet offerings on medial content.
Sure, music artists can offer their content for free and that is really cool, but it stands to reason, they are eventually going to need to support their offerings, financially and as an avid supporter of the independent musician, I find it very important to show some financial support to those artists. Lastfm makes that easy for us, as the subscriptions help pay the artists their royalties and we are currently pushing CBSi(parent corp.), to raise the royalty percentage and lower the cost of the music artists ‘Lastfm Powerplay’ campaigns.

As a music publicist, I have contacts in very high places and although, I cannot say too much in public, I can tell you this much; Lastfm is suffering and profits are not what was hoped for. There is a good chance, Lastfm will raise their sub prices, sell out, or just go bust.

Libre.fm will be running into these same issues, if they start offering protected content. However, if they do not offer that, I can see them getting bigger and better, just like Jamendo, which is also struggling to stay afloat, by the way.

]]> By: CrybKeeper http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/04/librefm/comment-page-1/#comment-5059 CrybKeeper Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:15:10 +0000 http://danlynch.org/blog/?p=663#comment-5059 And there you have it - it's those other 200 or something countries, that force Lastfms hand in this, as they impose various restrictions and red tape on digital content. Licensing for on-demand, streaming and even the ability to pause a track and resume it later, is extremely expensive. I am in the USA, but I prefer to pay the subscription fee at Lastfm, because when we subscribe and stream the music, it pays double royalties to the music artist, so in turn, we are not only supporting Lastfm, we are also showing more support and appreciation to the music artists. I check in at Libre.fm often to see what progress is coming around, but frankly, it doesn't look to be catching on so well. I also subscribe to Mog.com for 5.00 USD a month and belong to several other music streaming and radio communities, on-line. Pay to play is fast becoming the wave of future digital offerings. Although, I am not willing to pay exhorbitant amounts for that privilege, such as Rhapsodys' $14.99 USD a month - That is just too much cost for getting all the music I want. Compare that to NetFlix for example, which gives me all the movies I want for just $9.99 USD and you begin to realize, just how this should be weighed - price verses quality and quantity. I say 5.00 USD or Euros should be the staple for streaming on-demand and 3.00 USD for streaming shuffled radio is fine too. And there you have it – it’s those other 200 or something countries, that force Lastfms hand in this, as they impose various restrictions and red tape on digital content. Licensing for on-demand, streaming and even the ability to pause a track and resume it later, is extremely expensive. I am in the USA, but I prefer to pay the subscription fee at Lastfm, because when we subscribe and stream the music, it pays double royalties to the music artist, so in turn, we are not only supporting Lastfm, we are also showing more support and appreciation to the music artists.
I check in at Libre.fm often to see what progress is coming around, but frankly, it doesn’t look to be catching on so well.

I also subscribe to Mog.com for 5.00 USD a month and belong to several other music streaming and radio communities, on-line. Pay to play is fast becoming the wave of future digital offerings. Although, I am not willing to pay exhorbitant amounts for that privilege, such as Rhapsodys’ $14.99 USD a month – That is just too much cost for getting all the music I want. Compare that to NetFlix for example, which gives me all the movies I want for just $9.99 USD and you begin to realize, just how this should be weighed – price verses quality and quantity. I say 5.00 USD or Euros should be the staple for streaming on-demand and 3.00 USD for streaming shuffled radio is fine too.

]]> By: Dan http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/04/librefm/comment-page-1/#comment-2294 Dan Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:22:15 +0000 http://danlynch.org/blog/?p=663#comment-2294 @Baronfuming - I agree that Libre.fm has a way to go yet with development, but I think they know that. Lot's of people are working hard on it and it'll take time. I made many great contacts on Last.fm as well and I did value the service they offered. Like you I don't think their redesign and purchase by CBS has helped. The original founders have left now due to disputes with the corporate bosses. It's not the same site it was 2 years ago when it was independent. That's a real shame @Baronfuming – I agree that Libre.fm has a way to go yet with development, but I think they know that. Lot’s of people are working hard on it and it’ll take time. I made many great contacts on Last.fm as well and I did value the service they offered. Like you I don’t think their redesign and purchase by CBS has helped. The original founders have left now due to disputes with the corporate bosses. It’s not the same site it was 2 years ago when it was independent. That’s a real shame

]]> By: Baronfuming http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/04/librefm/comment-page-1/#comment-2286 Baronfuming Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:16:34 +0000 http://danlynch.org/blog/?p=663#comment-2286 I have been using last.fm for over a year now, and I have found it in decline since the new layout was introduced. Much like some of the other people who have posted here, I rarely made use of the radio feature, I do not care about the state of it. I use it primarily for the scrobbling and communicating with other users about music (I have befriended quite a few warm, welcoming individuals). However, libre.fm leaves a lot to be desired, both aesthetically and functionally. For example, I am unable to edit my profile, and I am not able to scrobble the plays on my iPod. I know the site's still in it's early stages, but it will take some major improvements to get me to fully and wholeheartedly make the migration to their website. I have been using last.fm for over a year now, and I have found it in decline since the new layout was introduced. Much like some of the other people who have posted here, I rarely made use of the radio feature, I do not care about the state of it. I use it primarily for the scrobbling and communicating with other users about music (I have befriended quite a few warm, welcoming individuals).

However, libre.fm leaves a lot to be desired, both aesthetically and functionally. For example, I am unable to edit my profile, and I am not able to scrobble the plays on my iPod. I know the site’s still in it’s early stages, but it will take some major improvements to get me to fully and wholeheartedly make the migration to their website.

]]> By: kmf http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/04/librefm/comment-page-1/#comment-1845 kmf Tue, 05 May 2009 10:53:57 +0000 http://danlynch.org/blog/?p=663#comment-1845 This is the way to go :) Good Luck to Matt This is the way to go :)
Good Luck to Matt

]]> By: Dan http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/04/librefm/comment-page-1/#comment-1812 Dan Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:10:25 +0000 http://danlynch.org/blog/?p=663#comment-1812 @tarantula - I never found the Last.fm recommended artists that accurate personally. Hopefully Libre.fm will have a similar and maybe even better feature. I don't have a great problem with Last.fm or the developers working there though I must say. They're bound by what CBS their corporate masters tell them to do now. You take the money you have to do as you're told. There are a lot of pro open source developers and good people working for the company still. Thanks for reading @tarantula – I never found the Last.fm recommended artists that accurate personally. Hopefully Libre.fm will have a similar and maybe even better feature. I don’t have a great problem with Last.fm or the developers working there though I must say. They’re bound by what CBS their corporate masters tell them to do now. You take the money you have to do as you’re told. There are a lot of pro open source developers and good people working for the company still. Thanks for reading

]]> By: Tarantula http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/04/librefm/comment-page-1/#comment-1809 Tarantula Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:01:07 +0000 http://danlynch.org/blog/?p=663#comment-1809 It really seems like a great project and I'm already fond of it. I'm quite pissed with Last.fm's attitude and I stopped scrobbling (aka enriching their site), after disrespecting my as a user. The thing is that through "Last.fm Scrobbler" I had the chance to listen to similar artists, according to the one chosen, with really very high accuracy. I let the Scrobbler do its job perfectly and even hours later, the musical theme was of the exact same aesthetic. Is there any chance of having again something like that through Libre.fm? Continue your excellent work...a new era is rising. It really seems like a great project and I’m already fond of it. I’m quite pissed with Last.fm’s attitude and I stopped scrobbling (aka enriching their site), after disrespecting my as a user.

The thing is that through “Last.fm Scrobbler” I had the chance to listen to similar artists, according to the one chosen, with really very high accuracy. I let the Scrobbler do its job perfectly and even hours later, the musical theme was of the exact same aesthetic. Is there any chance of having again something like that through Libre.fm?

Continue your excellent work…a new era is rising.

]]> By: Dan http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/04/librefm/comment-page-1/#comment-1712 Dan Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:48:28 +0000 http://danlynch.org/blog/?p=663#comment-1712 Thanks for the comments everyone. I've lost track of the project a bit in the last week with other things going on, but I'll try and test it out this week. I hear some of the developers have song reporting supported already. That's great work, good luck to them indeed! :) Thanks for the comments everyone. I’ve lost track of the project a bit in the last week with other things going on, but I’ll try and test it out this week. I hear some of the developers have song reporting supported already. That’s great work, good luck to them indeed! :)

]]> By: Ricardo http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/04/librefm/comment-page-1/#comment-1711 Ricardo Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:17:27 +0000 http://danlynch.org/blog/?p=663#comment-1711 I hope i can keep my username and maybe my gobbles for so far. I like it even though theres not much to do on libre.fm right now. I hope they make good artist pages, because i want to help putting pictures on it (maybe with a vote system like on last.fm) and i'd help putting video's of songs on it and artist info. I can't wait woeh. And i want to be able to comment on artists, leave a shout at people and add them as friends. if those things are done, the site will grow fast i think. Id would also be nice if there was just a standardgobbler to download from libre.fm, because my friends are waiting with libre because they are too lazy to change the Host file and download another musicplayer.. HAHAHA. Sounds silly, but i bet very many people are that lazy, they just want a gobbler to download and install. GOOD LUCK all!! I hope i can keep my username and maybe my gobbles for so far. I like it even though theres not much to do on libre.fm right now.
I hope they make good artist pages, because i want to help putting pictures on it (maybe with a vote system like on last.fm) and i’d help putting video’s of songs on it and artist info. I can’t wait woeh. And i want to be able to comment on artists, leave a shout at people and add them as friends. if those things are done, the site will grow fast i think. Id would also be nice if there was just a standardgobbler to download from libre.fm, because my friends are waiting with libre because they are too lazy to change the Host file and download another musicplayer.. HAHAHA. Sounds silly, but i bet very many people are that lazy, they just want a gobbler to download and install. GOOD LUCK all!!

]]> By: dely http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/04/librefm/comment-page-1/#comment-1669 dely Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:25:39 +0000 http://danlynch.org/blog/?p=663#comment-1669 I'm excited. I'm going to make an account as soon as possible and help build up the site =) We'll just see, if it's shit. I'll leave it like i left last.fm. It's fun, but we don't really NEED last.fm. So i just hope libre.fm will be a succes. I’m excited. I’m going to make an account as soon as possible and help build up the site =) We’ll just see, if it’s shit. I’ll leave it like i left last.fm. It’s fun, but we don’t really NEED last.fm. So i just hope libre.fm will be a succes.

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